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Mike, see if you can knock down a rating for another season 5 episode. :p

Added: January 28 2018 03:43:32 PM
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Ringfire, you are concerned that season five has a "higher" rating than season 2 (yeah, like it was .02 more!). It has the same rating as season two now exactly, because I reduced the rating for one season 5 episode.

Here is the breakdown of number of episodes in each season per particular ratings. Maybe there is some mathematical significance to this. You will see that there are the same number of "outstanding" episodes (rated 3.5 and 4.0) in both seasons, actually.

Season 2
2.0 - 2
2.5 - 12
3.0 - 3
3.5 - 4
4.0 - 2

Season 5
1.0 - 1
1.5 - 1
2.0 - 3
2.5 - 4
3.0 - 8
3.5 - 4
4.0 - 2

Added: January 28 2018 12:59:05 PM
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Agree with you on Most Likely To Succeed. I finally watched the episode on my Season 4 DVD set before Christmas. It's just an incredible episode. Up there with The Takers and Mask Of Death. I thought it was a remarkable family and episode. The Chemistry teacher allowed Paul to have his say but the grades had to be calculated. There's few flaws in the episode. When Paul went crazy, it was an amazing scene. A good lawyer and psychologist might have given Paul some kind of insanity defense. Would have loved to see a trial. Season 5-Top 5. 1.Monkey Is Back 2.Til Death Do Us Part 3.Hot Dog 4.Breakup 5.Dead Or Alive. The only weaker episodes Season 5...The Canine Collar, No Minor Vices, and Child Of Anger. I thought A Good Cop But...Was handled with maturity and Lambert an excellent cop. I liked how his partner Bell was angry about the finding out. Stone was more tolerant on Lambert's sexuality than I thought he would be. JC

Added: January 26 2018 03:09:57 PM
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Season 4:

1. Most Likely to Succeed
2. School of Fear
3. Judgment Day
4. Police Buff
5. The Glass Dartboard

I agree that season 4 was another strong season, though I can’t quite narrow down my top 10 - same as with seasons 1 and 2.

What I can’t understand though is folks placing season 5 ahead of 2. I enjoyed 5 just fine (even with Rich Hatch as the replacement) but I certainly didn’t think it was stronger than what came before. Hatch alone is reason enough to lower this one. But even looking past Hatch I don’t think any one episode really stood out. Maybe “The Drop” because I like kidnap stories or “Dead Lift” because it’s Ah-nuld. I liked “Breakup” with Pernell Roberts too. But I wouldn’t really call any episode in that season outstanding. Certainly nothing as suspenseful as “For the Love of God” or “The Blockade” or even “Chapel of the Damned” which had the creepy Signe Hasso (especially when she blows the other guy away with a shotgun while made up like a man).

Added: January 26 2018 01:48:49 PM
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SoSF, Season 5 Top 10 Favorites:

1 - Hot Dog
2 - Monkey is Back
3 - A Good Cop...But
4 - Hang Tough
5 - Time Out
6 - Dead or Alive
7 - Till Death Do Us Part
8 - Breakup
9 - Interlude
10 - Dead Lift

Added: January 26 2018 12:54:53 PM
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Great Streets of SF list Fred. The Glass Dartboard---I like the PERT chart and watching Stone show some anger especially when the stakeout goes sour. Suspenseful! Police Buff and Judgment Day are 2 of my FAV. Both Bill Bixby and Michael Burns nail their characters. They are memorable even 40+ years later. Streets of SF had a better depth of episodes than it gets credit for. I think had it went to 8 or 10 years probably even more celebrated. Haven't watched Charlie Blake in awhile. Can't figure it out myself.JC

Added: January 25 2018 05:16:32 PM
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SoSF Season 4 top 10 (11 since I couldn't choose just 10):

1 - Dead Air
2 - Police Buff
3 - Trail of Terror
4 - The Honorable Profession
5 - School of Fear
6 - Murder By Proxy
7 - The Cat's Paw
8 - Most Likely to Suceed
9 - Poisoned Snow
10 - No Place to Hide and Spooks for Sale

I also enjoy Web of Lies, Clown of Death & The Glass Dart Board (Sorry John. "Dart Board" doesn't make my season's top 11, let alone top 5 for the entire series. But I do like the episode).

I agree with Jason. Season 4 is very good. Second on my list. But I would go 1, 4, 3, 5, 2.

Judgement Day might have sneaked in if it wasn't a retread script of "For the Love of God".

Maybe Mr. Mike could re-watch "School of Fear" as long as he's re-watching "Charlie Blake". ;)

Last note. After successful "nice guy", lead roles in My Favorite Martian and The Courtship of Eddie's Father, you would think that it would be tough to get into Bill Bixby playing a tough guy or a psycho as he did in "Target: Red" and "Police Buff". But he nails both roles.

Added: January 25 2018 04:55:14 PM
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John, as to your question about whether I rewatched the Charlie Blake episode, the answer is NO. I spent far too much time on this show, watching it multiple times and am not interested in it any more. Maybe you have some ideas?

Added: January 25 2018 09:01:41 AM
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Mr. Mike, were you able to rewatch The Programming Of Charlie Blake? I know you had some questions with the ending. How Stone & Keller figured things out etc. Was 1 of the lower rated episodes. I think Mask Of Death was a masterpiece. John Davidson exemplary performance! The 30's & 40's actress impersonations made it an interesting episode. The Takers was an incredible episode. Wished they had done more of that quality. The swingers apartment and pool was a beautiful place. Just a great episode. Love the Streets SF FAV lists. I think the clown episode was well-acted. JC

Added: January 24 2018 10:57:14 PM
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Season 3 is definitely the easiest to pick a top 10.

1. Mask of Death
2. Flags of Terror
3. River of Fear
4. Labyrinth
5. License to Kill
6. Target: Red
7. The Most Deadly Species
8. One Last Shot
9. Ten Dollar Murder
10. End Game or Letters from the Grave

Added: January 24 2018 02:47:08 PM
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SoSF - Season 3 Top 10 Favorites:

1 - Target: Red
2 - Mask of Death
3 - Endgame
4 - River of Fear
5 - Solitaire
6 - Jacob's Boy
7 - The Programming of Charlie Blake
8 - The Most Deadly Species
9 - One Last Shot
10 - Mister Nobody

Added: January 24 2018 12:18:25 PM
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Season 3 was my favorite season of the SOSF - my top 10 from that season:

1 - Letters from the Grave
2 - Flags of Terror
3 - One Last Shot
4 - Ten Dollar Murder
5 - Mask of Death
6 - Most Deadly Species
7 - Target Red
8 - Labyrinth
9 - Cry Help
10 - tie between License to Kill and False Witness

I know License to Kill and False Witness didn't rate as highly as the other shows on the list but I liked both of them.

I enjoyed all 5 years of the SOSF but if I had to rank the seasons I would go with 3, 4, 1, 5, 2.

Added: January 24 2018 09:49:37 AM
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Season 2 for me:

1. For the Love of God
2. The Blockade
3. Commitment
4. Chapel of the Damned
5. Betrayed

Added: January 23 2018 08:42:46 PM
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SoSF Season 2 Favorites:

1 - Before I Die
2 - The Victims
3 - No Badge for Benjy
4 - Betrayed
5 - The Twenty-Four Karat Plague
6 - The Stamp of Death
7 - Going Home
8 - Shield of Honor
9 - For the Love of God
10 - A Wrongful Death

Whereas in Season 1, I could have kept going on with my top 10 list, in season 2, I struggled to find a top 10. Good episodes, but I enjoy season 1 far more.

Added: January 23 2018 01:36:27 PM
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Joining the SoSF favorite listings :)

From Season 1

1 - The Albatross
2 - The Takers
3 - Bitter Wine
4 - Legion of the Lost
5 - Beyond Vengeance
6 - A Room With a View
7 - The First Day of Forever
8 - In the Midst of Strangers
9 - 45 Minutes From Home
10 - Tower Beyond Tragedy

Worst of the bunch: Shattered Image, The Unicorn

Added: January 21 2018 12:08:13 PM
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Jason C, I like your top 5 from season 1 the most:

1st year - The Takers, The 30 Year Pin, The First Day of Forever, Act of Duty and Beyond Vengeance.

That list most closely aligns with mine. Although I would probably replace "The 30 Year Pin" with "Tower Beyond Tragedy". Loved psycho Edward Mulhare trying to morph Stefanie Powers into his ideal woman. "The Bullet" is another winner from that season!

Added: January 17 2018 05:35:22 PM
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Forgot about Poisoned Snow with Clu. Has to be included in my Streets of SF Top 10. I guess my Top 10 Streets of SF could look like: 1.The Takers 2.Mask Of Death 3.Judgment Day 4.Police Buff 5.The Glass Dartboard (PERT) 6.Most Likely To Succeed 7.Poisoned Snow 8.Act Of Duty 9.Labyrinth 10.Monkey Is Back & Letters From The Grave. Streets SF probably goes 20-25 episodes deep that could make a Top 10 list. Sign of a quality crime show. JC

Added: January 17 2018 04:28:58 PM
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To build off John's comment, I could easily come up with a list of 5 favorite episodes from each season of the SOSF.

My favorites from each year:
1st year - The Takers, The 30 Year Pin, The First Day of Forever, Act of Duty and Beyond Vengeance.

2nd year - Blockade, Before I Die, No Badge for Benjy, The 24 Karat Plague and A Wrongful Death.

3rd year - Letters from the Grave, Flags of Terror, One Last Shot, Ten Dollar Murder and Target: Red

4th year - Poisoned Snow, Police Buff, Most Likely to Succeed, Glass Dart Board and Dead Air.

5th year - Monkey Is Back, Thrill Killers, Hot Dog, Time Out and The Cannibals.

I know the 24 Karat Plague and A Wrongful Death did not rate as high as the other shows but they were personal favorites.

Added: January 17 2018 11:59:40 AM
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Great Streets of SF lists. I have to put Most Likely To Succeed and Letters From The Grave into the Top 10 if I extend it out. I'm glad that Season 5 with Richard Hatch replacing Keller has received some good episode reviews from Mr. Mike and a few of the forum regulars. JC

Added: January 16 2018 09:53:11 PM
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Saw 2 excellent episodes of BLUE BLOODS (the best so far that I’ve seen) - “New Rules” and “The Art of War”. It’s the 2-episode finale of season 5. Highly decorated Chief of Police Donald Kent (Dennis Haysbert) who led a crusade against gang violence in the Big Apple is assassinated (along with his wife) by a gang member. Our blue boys naturally treat this as the highest priority and begin their quest to bring the perpetrators to justice. The catch is that this one needs to be handled “by the book, all the way” (that’s how Chief Kent would have wanted it). Donnie Walhberg’s character has a tendency to cross the line when bringing perps to justice. Commissioner Tom Selleck (Walhberg’s dad) insists that it be done BY THE BOOK! The Commish and the Chief were old friends, you see. He wants to honor his old friend this way. Just an excellent 2-episode story and great writing for a police drama. Something Five-Zero could have been. Seeing 2 stalwarts like Selleck and Haysbert sitting across from each other and discussing their history together is a joy to watch. Such greatness, emotion, weight, a feeling of respect and comradarie between the two. That’s what great acting is all about. No petty bickering or stupid nonsense. Anyone see this episode?

P.S. Yes I checked this one out mainly because Haysbert was in it (however briefly). But then the story just pulled me in. That’s what great television does.

Added: January 16 2018 01:32:21 PM
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Top 5 STREETS? This is really tough. In chronological order:

1. Act of Duty
2. Beyond Vengeance
3. For the Love of God
4. Mask of Death
5. Most Likely to Succeed

Honorable mentions:

Flags of Terror
River of Fear
School of Fear
Judgment Day
Police Buff

I might be missing a few others too.

P.S. Of course Lenkov would like that MAGNUM screenshot. Throw any crazy thing at him and he'll like it.

Added: January 14 2018 10:43:03 PM
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Some guy sent this to Lenkov on Twitter. His response was "Like the way you think." :!swear:

Added: January 14 2018 05:18:22 PM
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My top 5 from the SOSF would be - 1) Blockade 2) The Takers 3) One Last Shot 4) Letters from the Grave 5) Flags of Terror

So many good shows from the SOSF - definitely a challenge to pick just five!

Added: January 12 2018 10:45:26 AM
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Top 5 Streets Of SF. 1.The Takers 2.Mask Of Death 3.Judgment Day 4.Police Buff 5.The Glass Dartboard (Big Fan of The PERT Chart). What would be your Top 5 of the series? JC

Added: January 11 2018 11:14:16 PM
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Bill, I hope you didn’t take offense to Mike’s not being interested in reviewing SWAT. He’s already reviewed more shows than he ever cared to. Plus I can’t even imagine how much time and effort goes into all that work. All I know is that I could never do what he does. Some time back I was doing a review of season 9 of FIVE-O (that’s just one season of one show!!) and it took me forever. Mike has done numerous seasons of numerous shows which is nothing short of mind-boggling! Especially since he goes so in-depth with each episode. And that’s even besides all the work he has to do archiving and maintaining the site. He’s gotta draw the line somewhere.

Mike loves talking about different shows and we bring up different shows all the time, but of course we don’t expect him to start reviewing these shows just because we mention them. He may get around to checking out SWAT at some point but whether or not he ever decides to review it that’s all up to him. Even if he ends up liking the show there’s no guarantee that he’ll decide to review it. It’s his call. All up to him.

If you want to discuss the show here you’re free to do so. There might be some here that are familiar with the show and maybe saw some of the episodes. They might want to chime in.

Added: January 09 2018 01:36:10 PM
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When I said "you have my attention," I meant that you brought this show to my attention. I have never said anywhere that I liked SWAT, because I have never seen it.

The upcoming release next week might be worth checking out, aside from the issues regarding putting the whole series on 6 discs. I will wait to see what people reviewing this set on Amazon and other sites have to say.

Added: January 08 2018 03:01:22 PM
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I may have thought the price was on eBay, which has various prices.

From your first response, hmm you have my attention, about S.W.A.T, I understood you liked it. Otherwise, I wouldn't have asked again.

Kindly remove all my posts.

I will take my business elsewhere.

Added: January 08 2018 02:36:14 PM
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I'm sure Mr. Mike is chomping at the bit to review the other Spelling-Goldberg hit T.J. HOOKER! ;)

I did see 1 or 2 episodes of S.W.A.T. and I agree that it's quite good. The stories are pretty interesting and inventive! I think because it only last 1 1/2 season it's not as well remembered and therefore typically overshadowed by the other Spelling-Goldberg shows like STARSKY & HUTCH, THE ROOKIES, CHARLIE'S ANGELS, T.J. HOOKER, etc.

Did you know that BLUE BLOODS (good show!) is produced by Leonard Goldberg?? I just watched 2 excellent BB episodes but more on that later...

Added: January 08 2018 12:01:04 AM
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I don't know where you are seeing the price of $50 for the complete series of S.W.A.T. to be released next week by Mill Creek Entertainment. According to, the price is currently $14.99 ( is $22.13 Canadian).

There is one big condition with this set. It puts the whole series on 6 DVDs, as previously mentioned. Mill Creek has a reputation for doing compilations like 44 Spaghetti Westerns or 600 Cartoons in box sets which are very cheap. The source material for these sets is often of inferior quality. Another contributing factor to the quality is the fact that much of this material comes from public domain sources, but I don't think S.W.A.T. falls into this category yet, dating from 1975.

The show has been released on DVD in North America previously:

Season One - released on June 3, 2003 (13 episodes), dunno by which company
Season Two - released on May 22, 2012 by Shout Factory (25 episodes)

There were originally 12 and 25 episodes in seasons one and two respectively, but one of the season two shows was originally intended for season 1, that's why there are 13 shows in the first season box set above.

The series is also available from Germany where it is called Die knallharten Fünf (The Tough Five). Looking this up on Ebay and Amazon Germany, it looks like it is in 3 box sets, probably with 12 or 13 shows in each box. To order this is not cheap, and requires a multi-region DVD player which will play PAL DVDs.

I can't get either S.W.A.T. TV show (1975) or even the 2003 movie which stars Colin Farrell, Samuel L. Jackson and Michelle Rodriguez (drool) from the library. I will probably wait to read reviews of the Mill Creek release before buying it (if I want to buy it). But I have no intention of reviewing it!

Added: January 07 2018 09:22:20 AM
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Thanks for the information. Ha, I think about that also, the typing.

I should have mentioned, I got this from a public library, 4 episodes per disc.

I can't put it down. Every aspect of the show, is great, location shooting; guest stars, procedures,etc.

Violent? Yes. I don't know anything about shows since about 1990, though, to compare it

The best made drama shows, I think, in no particular order, are Hawaii Five O; Streets of San Francisco; Mod Squad; The Virginian ( 1962-71); and this one, though dozens of others are great.

Yes, S.W.A.T. is hard to find. The new release appears to be US $50,way too much. Season 1 is hard to find; I only have season 2.

Since you are the best reviewer, perhaps you can get it from the library.

I like the reviews, mainly to see if I missed anything, or to help if a certain sub plot was hard to understand.

Mr. Forrest is brilliant in this.

A hit from Spelling, but lasting just 37 episodes.

eBay has some, but not cheap.

Added: January 06 2018 08:56:17 PM
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Hmmm, you have my attention with reference to S.W.A.T. (a title which is very annoying because you have to keep shifting and unshifting when you type it, LOL; not only that, it is difficult to search for this in various places because of this punctuation).

Steve Forrest, who played the boss of the team on this show, had a role in a "guilty pleasure" episode of Streets of San Francisco ( and has a certain "commanding presence" (no pun intended).

I am wondering, where did you "recently get this on DVD"? The whole series is going to be issued in about 10 days, though it was already released a few years ago in two separate boxes, one for each season. I am not too enthusiastic about the upcoming release, because the box set contains the entire show (2 seasons, 12 + 25 episodes) on >>SIX DISCS<<. That is going to cram 6 or 7 DVDs per disc, which is going to make the quality suffer something fierce (Cannon already did this with a recent release of the complete series; some of those episodes looked pretty bad).

There is currently a "reboot" (I guess, I haven't watched it) of S.W.A.T. on TV, and there was also a movie version of it a while ago starring Colin Farrell and Samuel L. Jackson, something which had my interest because of the presence of Michelle Rodriguez. I am wondering why she has never appeared on Five-Zero so far, because she was an alumnus of LOST, and several of its stars have appeared on Lenkov's reboot: William Mapother, Daniel Dae Kim, Terry O'Quinn, Jorge Garcia, Henry Ian Cusick, Sam Anderson, Tania Raymonde and François Chau. Rodriguez' appearance, especially in a continual, starring role, would certain raise my attention level and would give a lot of fodder to the Five-Zero Twitter crowd to get excited about.

Added: January 06 2018 11:05:49 AM
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Hi. I get so used to the reviews on this site, so when I discover a show I like, I hope I can find a good review site.

Thus, the 1975 TV series, S.W.A.T, I recently got on DVD, and have found to be excellent, in every way. Gripping, tense dramas,with not a dull moment. All are location filming, no cheap sets.

Excellent acting.

So, I am looking for a site which has episode reviews, if anyone knows

Thank you.

Added: January 06 2018 03:05:18 AM
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I watched the X-Files second reboot on Wednesday night, which I enjoyed because of the mindless non-stop action and the virtuoso performance by 79-year-old William B. Davis playing the Cigarette Smoking Man (CSM). (He will be 80 next week!)

But certain things about the show were kind of hard to take if you think about them even a little bit hard ... or if you haven't seen last year's reboot ... or the two X-Files movies ... or the last seasons of the original show. Never mind! I guess I have a soft spot for the show, especially for the relationship between Scully and Mulder, particularly Gillian Anderson, who is a babe, despite the fact that in this reboot number two premiere episode she was made to look pretty terrible in some scenes.

At the end of the first reboot last year, the major characters were left on a bridge fleeing some terrible outbreak of disease. Mulder looked pretty awful, like he was near death, and a mysterious light appeared above his car as if it was going to resolve things.

In Wednesday's show, Scully was suffering from massive headaches and bad visions, whereas Mulder is now OK, though concerned about >her<. A promo clip on Twitter suggests that all the stuff from the previous ending was just a dream ... or a vision (Or Something = OS)!

Scully is in the hospital, and she tells Mulder that the solution to the plague, contagion or whatever (which doesn't seem to be as rampant as in the previous show as far as other people are concerned) lies with CSM, who lives in Spartanburg, SC, where he is being taken care of by Monica Reyes, a traitorous former FBI agent who appeared in the final seasons of the original series. CSM in last year's 6-episode season was smoking through a hole in his throat, which seems to be now fixed, and he is smoking normally. Not only that, his face, which was horribly disfigured in a massive fireball previously, is now almost back to normal.

Anyway, Mulder jumps in his car and heads to Spartanburg. (I dunno why they couldn't have made CSM's location closer to Washington, D.C.) Some very bad dude is following Mulder. This guy previously attempted to run over Jeffrey Spender, another character from the original series, who visited Scully in the hospital and begged her to reveal information about the location of Mulder and Scully's son William who, by virtue of the fact that his body contains alien DNA (much like Scully herself), is the key to saving the world from the recent outbreak and probably other things too. (In the parking garage where Mr. Bad Dude (MBD) attempted to run over Spender, who just rolled up on the window of MBD's car and was otherwise OK, Spender didn't bother to just run between some cars to save himself, duh!)

Anyway, having an unlimited supply of cars, MBD, whose vehicle was seriously damaged in the attempted assassination of Spender, pursues Mulder, who drives very fast. MBD runs into some other cars on the way there, but keeps going all the way to Spartanburg. While doing so, he is followed by Mulder, who reverses positions with him. MBD doesn't realize that Mulder is following him, even though the drive between DC and Spartanburg takes about 7½ hours, duh again!

Finally having arrived in Spartanburg, Mulder breaks into the house where MBD has gone, only to find that CSM is not there. Instead, he meets these other conspiratorial types, including actress Barbara Hershey, who have some connection to CSM, but instead of wanting to destroy the world with a contagion, they want to take people in a Rapture-like move to live on space stations (OS)!

While all this is going on, CSM and Reyes have gone to DC (another 7½-hour drive), and so has MBD, and Mulder is quick to follow them, even though he looks very bagged.

During Mulder's trip to Spartanburg, Scully checked herself out of the hospital despite the protests of the people taking care of her, went to Mulder's place, where she contacted him, then passed out, then recovered and attempted to drive her car somewhere while having more blinding headaches and hallucinations. Of course she has a horrible accident and is transported back to the hospital which she left. Lucky her, this all took place near the FBI building where Agents Einstein and Miller, the Scully and Mulder look-alikes from last season, witnessed this and were quick to call the ambulance.

CSM and Reyes have arrived in Washington, DC, where they start to play "Let's Make a Deal" with Skinner, Mulder and Scully's ex-boss at the FBI. They want to know where William can be found, because he is "the first superhuman child" who can resolve lots of the world's problems, like the fact that everyone is going to die, blah blah blah.

MBD comes to Scully's hospital room, where he attempts to suffocate, then strangle her. Considering she looks like she was having a good sleep, she fights back with a passion, but things don't look good until Mulder suddenly appears and slits MBD's throat with a nearby scalpel.

Shortly after this, Skinner, who I suspect has gone over to the dark side (i.e., CSM's), has a nasty confrontation with Mulder, who is in the hospital holding the very banged-up Scully's hand.

This is a disturbing amount of stuff to happen in one show, but like last year, where the premiere episode was also pretty hairy (reintroducing Mulder and Scully after 13 years), it looks like suddenly the emotionally and physically damaged characters will be in the second episode back to solving the usual X-Files cases!

Oh yeah, I didn't mention that William is revealed not to be the son of Scully and Mulder but CSM! Some fan reaction to this apparently is not very positive...

Added: January 05 2018 08:58:10 AM
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This is my Christmas present to myself. The usual list price of this at Amazon Canada is supposedly $377.09 (Canadian). I got it for $72.46 plus tax, minus a $5.00 credit I had. This was 81% off the list price. I was not asking any questions.

Who will watch the show's second reboot tonight?

Added: January 03 2018 08:38:09 AM
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