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Mr. Mike - thanx for checkin in with yo boys at CBS. And RingFire - I'm down with the full Five-O soundtrack release, long as they include Chicken's acapella prison shower rendition a "Ain't no big thing" on the CD! :D

Hey Todd - good analysis in your post. But Chicken would contend most a the compliments N advantages you give Five-Zero be due to them very stylistic differences between 70's TV & today you outline, i.e. continuous plots, betta action. In fact, Five-Zero itself be more straight action show while the Five-O was as you sez: "pure crime solvin.'"

Time and memories notwithstandin, the biggest beef us Five-O heads have with the Zero is, as our man Ray sez — the Five-Zero "is simply not true to the original series."

But wassup with your take that "The (Five-Zero) actors are more attractive?" Were Jack and JMac not sufficient babe magnets back in they day?

Man, Al Harrington was an All-American and I can also confide that Chicken's lady be sweet on Duke. N the thing bout Chin and Kono is they actually look like cops! Hell, Kam Fong wuz a real HPD, true po-leece. Some may recall that the late, great Jon Polito was run off a the great po-leecer “Homicide” by the network suits, to be replaced with “more attractive” so called thespians.

Ray - great post by you. Shout out to New York, man! But Chicken disagree the Five-O actin be wooden. I’d say the lack a flash in the performances be more in line with the proceedural, detective essence a the show. And as most a the plots concern McGarrett, Jack, naturally, get to act-it-up. Chicken dig the actor’s studio Method-Men, cats like Marlon Brando & Harvey Keitel. So I digs when ole Jack turn it lose. Chew that scenery, baby! Yeah, man! :!cool:


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I have no interest in another DVD or Blu-Ray release because I'm very happy with the remastered quality that we got on our original DVDs (I don't own season 10 which is fine). I'm pretty sure we've already seen any bonus material that's out there so I'm not really interested in including that. About the only thing that would pique my interests would be an audio commentary on specific episodes. I generally enjoy listening to commentaries, for TV episodes or films. But then the question is who would record these commentaries? Most of the folks involved with the old show are dead. Unless these would be fan commentaries - people in the business who are fans of the old show, or even someone like our esteemed Mr. Mike, or other die-hard fans who have internet exposure and clout and/or maintain their own Five-O fansite. Just an idea. Could be interesting. Don't know how feasible this would be though.

The thing that would really make the anniversary special for me, however, is a release of a full Five-O soundtrack (like they did with MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE) via La-La-Land Records. I've written about this before and that's still something that I'm hoping for the most, even though I realize there are various legal wranglings involved. But anyway that's what would really make it for me! I don't need episodes that I already own. But I do need the music!


Added: January 17 2018 06:18:43 PM
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One of our regulars e-mailed me about the posting yesterday regarding a possible video release to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the show:

How about a best-of blu ray set featuring 2-3 discs of the best episodes (up to 16 episodes) of the series as voted on by the fans online? Something like they did on dvd for Perry Mason and Gunsmoke, but for blu ray . The show has high visibility running each day on Me-TV, and it would be a great way to test the waters for more blu ray releases down the road.

I replied:

This is an interesting idea, but hasn't the Five-O cow pretty well been drained of milk by the individual DVD seasons plus the "complete sets" which have been issued on DVD -- one consisting of individual box sets, plus two more.

From a marketing point of view, you have to think about who would buy this Blu-Ray "best of" collection -- probably only people who are psycho for Blu-Rays, and what percentage of the fan base consists of those people? I'm sure Joe Average types would be just happy to have their DVDs, and would not want to upgrade.

There is also the issue of what happens if all the seasons >are< eventually released on Blu-Ray (which I think is very unlikely). Then the people who bought the "best of" compilation would be pissed off that they have to upgrade >again<.

Another issue has to do with holding a poll online. This could be done either in this forum or via a separate "poll" (I'm sure there are services somewhere on the Internet that I could utilize). I think it wouldn't work too well in the forum, because hardly anyone posts here any more, not like in the old days, though I'm sure a lot of people are >reading< the forum. [NOTE TO ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST "READING" THE FORUM: This is your opportunity to SPEAK UP!!]

There was already a selection of "best of" shows with the Columbia House video releases:

http://fiveohomepage.com/columbia-house.htm

There is a problem because already there are some "best" shows missing from this list, for example, Draw Me A Killer. As well, there is a question about which episodes would look "best" on Blu Ray. For example, there are shows like The Late John Louisiana which have brilliant color in them. These shows may not necessarily be in the "best of" Columbia House collection.

There may also be issues with the "original elements" as mentioned in the previous posting. One show where the original elements are sometimes crappy is Nine Dragons. There are scratches in some scenes, and I'm sure CBS is not going to have these fixed.

Recently I had to watch some episode because I had to check something and I was actually disturbed by how mediocre the quality of the color was (which I had always thought was outstanding throughout all of the seasons, other than in season 10). And I don't think my DVDs have deteriorated!


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Hi Mike,

Thanks so much for emailing CBS and providing the great response.

As far as suggestions, it was discussed over at FSM that a couple of us would love to see Blu Rays released with some “Isolated Scores” included on many of the popular episodes, such as the PILOT, HOOKMAN, NINE DRAGONS, A THOUSAND PARDONS - YOU’RE DEAD and WOE TO WO FAT. As far as the music, these are some of my suggestions as far that goes.

Also, I would love to see the M STATION: HAWAII TV movie included as a bonus. I was also wondering if CBS would be willing to release NUMBER ONE WITH A BULLET and THE EXECUTION FILE with the original songs restored to these episodes.

Anyway, these are some of my thoughts and or suggestions for CBS and I would sincerely appreciate it if you could forward this information to them. Thanks again, my friend!


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I'd like a Top 50 FAV Classic HFO episodes list in a DVD package. Voted on by the Classic HFO fans. Maybe, they can start online and voting. Something like the Rock and Roll HOF. 1 vote per day. Kind of a countdown 50-40, 39-30, 29-20, 19-11,and then 10 down to 1. My guess the Vashon Trilogy, Hookman, Trouble In Mind,The Ninety-Second War Part I etc would make the Top 10. It would be interesting if there's any behind the scene footage for A Death In The Family. It must have been emotional filming Chin Ho's demise. JC

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To the extent there would be some form of a public event honoring the 50th anniversary, I would make the Park Lane available. But only for those who required a booking and transport to HPD.

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Glenn, I e-mailed the boss of CBS Home Entertainment asking if there is anything planned because of Five-O's 50th anniversary this year. He replied: "Not sure we have any new, unseen material to release, and Blu-Ray is unlikely ... but not impossible. I will circle back with my guys to see what the state of the original elements are in. Please write me with any ideas you have as we're always interested in giving the fans cool stuff!"

So do you have any ideas?

There are a couple of goodies which have not been released yet:

1) the Stephen J. Cannell unsold pilot from 1997 with Gary Busey, James MacArthur, etc.
2) M Station Hawaii (this was produced in conjunction with CBS)

Maybe I could throw in those rushes from Number One With a Bullet?

Don't say Bored She Hung Herself, it ain't gonna happen!

While the original show debuted on September 20, 1968, the pilot episode was shown in a movie theater on February 19, 1968! (Hmmm ... maybe the 2-part pilot episode would be an interesting addition to the above, though it's not >that< different than the full-length version.)


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Sorry, Todd, the forum software does not allow for multiple submissions if one is already waiting to be approved. I have reverted to NOT approving messages (they will appear after you submit them), but I have turned on the anti-spam, which can be severe.

Thanks for the suggestion about switching to some other software, but after my experience with the phpBB forum from July 2016-June 2017, I am not interested in this because I don't want a replay of the hassles I encountered, not to mention the expense I had to put out to get things fixed when people hacked my site.


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Regarding Season 8, Episode 12 (of Five-Zero)...

I liked this episode a lot better than Mike did.

I noticed there was not ANY time wasting -- something very uncommon for Five-Zero. Maybe this was because Danno was missing? It seems that Danno's presence always equals stupid subplots these days. That's too bad, because I don't mind Danno's character (unlike Mike), but I have to concur that the plots surrounding him lately have been mostly garbage.

When the FBI agent announced at the beginning that he would be cracking down on island gang violence, I said out loud, "Isn't that supposed to be Five-O's job?" I see Mike had the same sentiment.

Regardless, I thought the setup of the agent and his family being killed was pretty well done, and in fact it was surprising to see the death of his wife and cute kid, as well. When the explosion happened, I was sure it would kill the agent but not the wife/child, but seeing the little body under the sheet in the morgue was unexpectedly powerful. Five-Zero usually shies away from actually harming child characters.

McGarrett's outrage was reasonable, but his plan to round up every gang-related criminal on the island was absurd, as was the weird plan to hold them all together in an easily-penetrated makeshift outdoor cage area. There were at most 165 crimimals being held. There wasn't room for that in all of Oahu, especially if they moved out some nonviolent offenders elsewhere?

Rounding up 165 suspects with no leads also didn't seem productive at all. Why not just question each of the local crime bosses and go from there?

Ignoring that odd way of McGarrett going about things, the episode was full of action, and contained a lot of twists and turns -- with no real resolution by the end!

With Adam revealing to the Yakuza that he's working with Five-Zero and causing them to get arrested, is there going to be a target on his back? At least it seems like they finally gave Adam a purpose in the post-Kono Five-Zero.

The two new characters, Tani and Junior, are working out pretty well. Both are likable, and both are being eased in to Five-Zero as the newbies they are. Honestly I don't miss Chin and Kono all that much.

I give this episode 3 stars. Far from perfect, but I enjoyed it the entire way, and I'm eager to see the story resolved.

This was a nice departure from the prior two, which were both lousy.


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A few things here...

First off, Mike, if you are suffering through spam attacks, you should really consider going to forum software and utilizing some anti-spam plugins. I run two forums and have a very minimal spam problem. But if you are going to keep it this way, PLEASE at least enable multiple messages, even if they require approval. I hate having to squeeze everything into one message, even if they're different topics.

Ray, welcome to the forum. I am near your age (almost 46), and I also discovered Five-O in the mid-1990s. I had seen my parents watching it in the '70s, but I was far too young (almost 8 when it was canceled) to have watched it first-run. I decided to give it a try in late-night reruns on KCOP Channel 13 at 4am. I immediately loved the show and began collecting as many episodes as I could on videotape. Some were sent to me by mail by people like Mike. Other times I traded episodes by meeting people locally.

Regarding the comparison between the two shows, they're both quite different and very hard to compare. One began 30 years after the other was canceled, so we're talking two completely different eras.

A show like the old Five-O would be a flop today. As good as it was, there wasn't enough character development, and with only a few exceptions, all episodes were self-contained with no connection to one another. Both of these aspects were common in the '70s and '80s, but wouldn't fly today.

The old Five-O did several things better. The episodes were longer (fewer commercials) yet more focused. There was zero time-wasting. We got 48-50 minutes of pure crime solving. The source material was more creative. Many of the criminals and crimes were unique and compelling, while the newer Five-Zero is more of a by-the-numbers cop/action drama. The old show didn't ram annoying/boring character subplots down our throats.

However, the new Five-Zero has some advantages. The actors are more attractive. The action sequences are far more exciting. There are continuous plots which expand through several episodes, allowing more time to explore them. We get to learn more about the characters. After twelve seasons, we didn't know very much at all about the characters we saw in original Five-O. In Five-Zero, for better or worse, we see the characters beyond the work environment.

Overall I've enjoyed both shows. I do like the older Five-O better because of the uniqueness of its plots and its (usually) wise usage of episode time.

I was going to post my own thoughts regarding Season 8, Episode 12 of Five-Zero, but this message is already too long, so I guess I'll have to do it next time.


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NCIS addressed this issue in "Power Down" (Season 7). Power was lost in Virginia, Maryland, and the District, meaning the investigators had to do their work without the benefit of computers or other technology. They rummaged through boxes of paperwork, did the legwork, and solved the case the time-honored way. At the end, they said it gave them a feeling of satisfaction that high-technology investigating did not give them. It was a nice tip-of-the-hat to 1.0, which they gave, in fact, in several instances.

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Ray, I agree with all your points on why the old show is superior to the new one. Especially the lame super computer that knows everything. It really does take away from the fun and ingenuity of solving the crime like on the old show. What's the point anyway? Instead of following the clues that the computer spits out they might as well just ask the computer who the culprit is and I'm sure they will get their answer. It's just a really laaaaaaaaaazy and contrived way of solving the crime. It's basically MINORITY REPORT. Swapping and sliding stuff across the screen. The computer knows everything.

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Good points Ray! I enjoyed Classic HFO that they would apprehend the perpetrator with a few clues. Maybe, a fingerprint or a tire impression. They had Che to assist them. Like how they matched the tire impression at the blasted plant site to the Sgt's vehicle in The Last Eden. Or the investigative work to narrow the suspect to Vic in Wednesdays Ladies Free. I agree with the new HFO has so much technology at their disposal. McG & the old team would solve these crimes in 15 minutes. LOL! Also, you are correct about the old HFO focusing on the story and solving the crimes more. Not as much drama or family talk. Great post. JC

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I don’t know if this has been mentioned yet, but this coming September will be the 50TH Anniversary of the classic show and I was wondering what kind of goodies might be in the works, such as possibly some original music releases or a COMPLETE Blu Ray set.

Anyway, I hope that something comes out in celebration of this classic show and this huge milestone:)


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Hi all, I'm a big fan of the original series. I stumbled onto it in 1995 while a senior in college, so I wasn't around for the original run.

I wanted to like the new series but I haven't been able to watch more than a handful of episodes. The biggest problem to me right off the bat is the wise-cracking banter between McGarrett and Danno in the new series, which is simply not true to the original series. In the original series there was of course some mild joking between the two, but at the same time Danno was _always_ very respectful of McGarrett (and vice versa).

Also in the new series as discussed below the McGarrett character is too hands-on commando action star. Lord certainly had his share of action sequences in the original show, but he didn't pretend to be a Navy Seal all the time.

Another problem: If you notice, the original series did not delve too deeply into the personal lives of the actors. There weren't long drawn out plot lines with Danno's kid or parents, or Chin's marriage, etc. That allowed them to focus the 44 minutes on whatever caper or story was going on. I realize tv is new these days in that it's long arc, but I enjoyed the old episodes because you could parachute into a single episode and it stood on its own; you weren't lost on the backstory. (It's the reason I enjoy 70s and 80s tv in general and can't really find a show these days that I'm into. But I realize time has passed me by here and I'm on the losing end of this particular argument.) In the old series whatever romances the main characters had going on were generally limited to a single episode. Or we got a brief glimpse into, say, Chin's personal life in an episode but it was usually part of the story line (e.g., Rest In Peace, Somebody; Cry, Lie; The Jinn Who Clears The Way).

Finally, as a more general comment I wonder whether the explosion of technology makes these episodes a little less fun. When it was limited to fingerprints, bullet analysis, blood type, some low level chem lab stuff the plots were simpler, or a little more believable. Now with the digital age of information and huge touch screen computers that have every piece of information/analysis under the sun in them.... I don't know, it's less compelling to me somehow. But generally I think the writing in the new show is not up to par with the writing of the original, at least in the first several seasons. But maybe this is just get-off-my-lawn stuff from me, even though I'm only 44 :)

One thing I will say is that the acting in the old show did leave a lot to be desired. The acting of the main characters other than McGarrett were generally wooden. McGarrett, for his part, often over-acted. But at least he had training. As did James MaCarthur although he comes off a bit wooden anyway. And of course many of the same actors appeared frequently throughout the series run, likely because they were either local actors or even local non-actors. I enjoyed that aspect of it but I can see how others might not.

Mike: Do you have a list of the actors from the original series who have appeared in the new series, and the episodes they appeared in? I love that aspect of the new series.

The new series might also do well to re-do and modernize some of the better plots from the old series, such as they did with Hookman.

Thanks,
Ray


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That was not a story about my father. It was a posting by Dennis Chun, who plays Duke on the current 5-0 and also played some parts in the original series. The posting was about his father Kam Fong, who played Chin Ho Kelly in the original show.

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barnzoboy, I just logged in here to see if it was my imagination that the episodes for season 5 jumped ahead quite a few to episode 12 Thursday night. Couldn't find the info on the MeTV page. Guess I'll need to get the complete DVD collection, I only have up to Season 3 or 4.

Have always wondered how much of the original shows got cut out over the years to fit in more commercials. IIRC, it was the Family Channel that originally started digitizing and 'cleaning up' the program back in the late 90s. But they were sold around 1998 or 99 and 5-O ended. I'd guess though, that the chopping started years ago when the original programs were running in syndication over the decades.

I had started watching the new 5-O but lost track somewhere in Season 2 and never got back to it. It wasn't a bad show overall, it's just hard to get the same feel from it as the original series. Doesn't have the same 'soul', I guess.

Mr. Mike - thank you for relaying your dad's story. I'd read only a brief account of it somewhere along the way. I cannot fathom going through something like that and being able to survive mentally or emotionally. I have a 5 yr old daughter who is my world. I remember life before her, but don't even want to try to imagine a life without her.

Thankfully your dad had the strength to go forward. Of all the original 5-O characters, he is the one who always gave me the most 'genuine' feeling in his role.


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I rarely if ever have anything nice to say about Five Faux. There is an exception to every rule, and I thought last night's episode was the second finest piece of writing of the entire series. Nothing blew up-only one crime, and it was believable-and an extremely powerful performance by Chi McBride. The shame of it is this team can put together quality writing-when it wants to.

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Dennis Chun posted the following on Facebook:

Been a rocking morning here as Hawaii dealt with a false Missile attack alert. Very sobering. If we are ever truly under attack Hawaii will only have 20 minutes to seek any shelter possible.

Last night's Five-0 was an especially moving and powerful episode. It has a special meaning to me. As many of you know, in 1944, my father, Kam Fong, lost his first family when a B-24 bomber crashed into Kalihi destroying a block of homes. One of those houses was my father's. His wife and son were killed instantly. He carried his little daughter out from the flaming wreckage. She died the next day.

In the days following, dad became rather despondent. In a 1998 interview with the Honolulu Star Bulletin Dad described what happened next.

"Fong tried to drink himself to death. His despondency culminated one night when he placed a revolver to his temple in the back room of his mother's house. "To this day, I don't know where she came from, but she found me. Suddenly my mother screamed, 'Son, you must never do that.' I felt so bad. I put the gun away."

Just as Lou's son stopped Lou so did my grandmother stopped dad. If she hadn't I would not be here today.

As we all know life is not easy - sometimes darkness and despair can descend on us.

In such moments suicide can seem a viable option. It is not but if you feel in such place please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1 -800 - 273-8255 . Remember you are not alone. We are all ohana -- the ohana of humanity.

And today take a moment to hug and say I love you to those you care about. For forty minutes this morning when no one in Hawaii knew if we had a tomorrow "I love you" were the three most important words to many of us.

So to all the H50hana around the world we want to know we love you and are grateful for your aloha.

Malama Ponolo


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Review of last night's show (S08E13).

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Since a couple of spam messages have been left, and since the e-mail functionality of me approving messages has been back for some time, all messages posted are going to be approved before they can be viewed. This might take some time after you hit the Submit button, and you will not be able to leave any other messages until your message that you just posted appears in public.

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One of the CHFOR posted about The Big Kahuna episode as a ridiculous episode. I would probably agree. Sam was the man of Hawaiian blood and a man of respect. George and Eleanor hatched a plan to make Sam psychologically unstable through the combination of drugs and projected images. It started out as a smart plan to gain his land but there would be obvious problems. First, Sam would be hospitalized when they drove him crazy. They run tests and things. Those different drugs and things would show up in blood tests. Similar to A Man In A Steel Frame. They found McG was drugged. Two-McG &HFO team entered the scene finding the projection screen material and things. With HFO around, it gets tougher to kill Sam. The Big Kahuna is similar to Journey Out of Limbo. There's this elaborate setup to drive Sam out of his mind to take his precious land. A simple fall down dark stairs or a few well-placed bullets would have done the trick. I'm wondering if Six Kilos and The Big Kahuna were placed at the end of season 1 to help it get renewed for season 2. They are rather unique shows. JC

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Are you guys watching the daily Five-O on ME-TV? I try to catch it everyday, although I wish it started at 6PM CST as I first leave work at 5PM. I've noticed some frequent cutting and omissions in these episodes, I presume for the additional commercial time versus original or DVD. Also, I just noticed this week in Season 5, they completely skipped over the Vashon Trilogy episodes, instead going from Journey Out of Limbo to The Clock Struck Twelve. Not sure why that happened.

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Good evaluation of "Here Today, Gone Tonight," John C. It just failed on every issue. Such a shame with Monte Markham as guest star. He deserved better material to work with.

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Here Today, Gone Tonight I agree is a ridiculous episode. I did enjoy the creativity of the episode. It falls apart for several reasons. One-Barry Dean although clever would still be the prime suspect. He was the last person to visit Peter Fleming alive. Also, he was elevated to Fleming's position after he died. He had opportunity and motive. Two-The double Dean's and the double houses were confusing. I guess Dean created this double as a person for the police to investigate. But only Dean himself had access to Fleming and the building. Three-June's sudden crumbling. I disliked this since June was seen as a very smart and strong woman. Also resourceful and a little ruthless to help set up her own husband. Four-The little chopper ride. Danno left with light outside. There's no way McG's simulation with Che could work. If it was dark, maybe it could be possible. Here Today, Gone Tonight would have worked better as a Two Parter. The Part II would be Barry Dean's trial. McG & HFO team would be losing in court. That's when they could have introduced Bella the investigative agent. I think Two Doves & Mr. Heron is a little ridiculous too. JC

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I have enjoyed Let Death To Us Part with multiple watches. Jim Spier is 1 cool character. Breaking out of prison and trying to clear his name. His girlfriend was a good character. Willing to help out as much as she could. Norton the old detective on the case retired but discussed the Newhall case with McGarrett. I agree that the ending dragged on too long. Both Anita and Helen were involved and deserved to be in prison. Jim Spier sure received a raw deal. It was a good detective working episode. McG & HFO team plenty of shoe leather. McG talking with Anita and Norton, Danno questioning the stewardess, etc. Maybe, a better ending would have McG arresting them as they tried to leave for Australia or Japan. Then, Helen admitting her guilt. JC

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Great talk about Season 12 and some ridiculous shows or things in Classic HFO's history. I was thinking about the garage door openers in A Hawaiian Nightmare. McG gets a brainstorm when the TV remote turns the TV off and on. Great thought but they could have easily activated the volcano explosion. I agree on Killer At Sea. Not a great episode. The journalist was very nice-looking. McG should have enjoyed some time with her. It also was easy to figure out because the William Devane character only 1 with a criminal record. Should have had more sinister or interesting suspects. Strange Danno & McG were on this cruise Hawaii to Calif. Seems like a waste of manpower. They also tacked on the ending in California. There was no evidence that the victim was in on the money takings until that point. Watched Though The Heavens Fall. Enjoyed it more this time around. JC

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Right oooon, Chickie-Bay-Bee! That’s the kinda man-o-action Steve-O that I dig, baby. Outta sight, dig???

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The esteemed Mr. Mike & Brudda RingFire - glad to hear wee's all on the same page with King's Shadow. And Chicken dig that Blazing Saddles reference, harkenin back to the pre-ESPN days. You fracture me wit dat Wide World of Sports, brudda.

As far as man-o-action-McGarrett: Chicken love watchin that footage featured in countless eps a Steve-O runnin down them palace steps into the Park Lane to drive past them same Honolulu streets on the way to the crime scene.

And dig when Steve clears lawyer Dennison's desk in 24 Karat Kill - probably Chick's favorite scene in the whole series - carvin Chin's name in his desk blotter! That lawyer cat musta thought Steve-O was gonna take him apart next. "Chin Ho Kelly - you better know that name" Now that's some ACTION, man! Or Steve wantin to storm down the hall to save Danno in King a The Hill - shovin off HPD's Doug Mossman - and lob tear gas down the hallway a the hospital! Now that's early seasons action-man McGarrett at his Combustable Best! To paraphrase a popular fast food tagline – No One Out Intensitys Jack Lord!

But Chicken is certainly saddened to hear that the Alex-O boy-band version done lost a step to age. Man, won't be long till he's runnin errands for rich folk on behalf a the Governor. Well, here's to many mo' seasons a the fantabulous Five-Zero. Dilly! Dilly! :D


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Someone e-mailed me as follows. Can anyone help with this?

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I remember I was about 8 years old and seeing a scene from “Five-O” but I don’t know which episode it is from (my dad watched the show during its whole run).

Anyway, there’s a scene with Danny standing on a roadway in front of a car (the car is to his left and a mountain/hill sloping up behind) and there is a Hawaiian girl/lady running toward him in what appears to be a low lying valley. What I recall is that he was upset and I got the feeling she died or something like that happened. I was born in 1969 so the timeframe for the episode would be 1977-78 but I’m not 100% positive. It could have been earlier or even a different character but I’m pretty sure it was Danny.

I know it’s not from “Beautiful Screamer.” The scene was similar but the girlfriend spun more and the scene I’m remembering she is running straight toward the road and it could also be a flashback.


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I’ll agree with that writer that “our” McGarrett (that is, the REAL Steve-O Five-O) wasn’t the “man of action” that the new one is, but in my opinion that’s a GOOD thing! A VERY GOOD thing! If being a man of action means doing things that defy logic like crawling along the sides of skyscrapers or leaping across rooftops or lifting cabins in the woods using a helicopter then NO THANKS. I don’t need that. Leave that for the video game junkies.

I’ll wait until AOL begins pronouncing words as “case-sette” or “pro-cess” before I start making Lord Jack and AOL comparisons. :)


Added: January 08 2018 07:15:56 PM
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I once came across a review of the new show where the writer criticized the original show, calling the dialogue corny and the storylines silly. He quoted some examples of dialogue from an episode I didn't recognize. I responded to his post and pointed out the inaccuracies in his statement. He responded by admitting that he only saw two episodes of Hawaii Five-O, from Season 12 no less. That explains his negative comments, but to judge the entire 12-season run of this show by two episodes is very ignorant and unprofessional, especially from someone who claims to be a journalist. Maybe the girl on that blog saw some of those later episodes where McGarrett acted more like and administrator and engaged in less physical action. Given how little these modern writers research their topics, it might be the case, but it could also be that she saw several episodes from various seasons and still assessed McGarrett in this manner because she didn’t care.

Added: January 08 2018 04:03:51 PM
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There are no rumours that this will be Five-Zero's last season. The ratings are up despite the loss of two major characters and the buzz is that there will be another one for sure. O'Loughlin was talking that he had had enough, but I'm sure he can be persuaded to stick around.

Added: January 08 2018 12:52:40 PM
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She just doesn't get the REAL McGarrett at all! Clearly, she never saw the earlier episodes, when McGarrett ran through cane fields, mounted the palace steps two and three at a time, and caused the Park Lane to do everything but stand up and tap dance.

At the same time, there is a partial truth in what she says about McGarrett dropping back to portray the administrator. Typically, the man in charge is an administrator. But that is in real life. And, so, there is a conflict between the action that television demands and the accuracy that people in the know demand.

McGarrett was still active in the later seasons. In Season 11, he swung from an aerial tram in "The Year of the Horse." In Season 12, he ran after Kimo Carew to keep him from dismembering Guido Marioni limb by limb in "Good Help is Hard to Find" and ahead of Wo Fat's henchmen and, then, Wo Fat at the end of "Woe to Wo Fat," to name but three examples. His age showed. He lacked the youthful gait, but he still could do the job.

Frankly, I think it is high time they let the McGarrett wannabe grow up and start acting more like an administrator and, more to the point, a keeper of the law. No more leaping tall buildings in a single bound. No more being more crooked than the criminals. Play it by the book -- or not at all.

Now, tell me: Has anyone else heard the rumor that this is 2.0's last season?


Added: January 08 2018 12:31:21 PM
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WHAT?!?!?

https://h50koolaid.wordpress.com/2018/01/07/h50-review-8-12-ka-hopu-nui-ana-the-round-up/

Review of last Friday's show, read down near the bottom:

It’s almost as if, entering into his 8th year as team leader, the Steve McGarrett of “Five-0” [Alex O'Loughlin] is becoming an amalgam with the Steve McGarrett of “Five-O” [Jack Lord]. The McGarrett of the original series was an older, less active leader than our Steve. He didn’t get his hands dirty all that often. Of course, it was a different era of TV so the action was on an entirely different level but that McGarrett was more like a Head Coach, moving his players around to the best advantage.

While still our intrepid SuperSEAL, Steve is also now a man in his forties, more mature, more weathered and more open to delegating to other members of his team, just as the McGarrett of old once did.

Now, don’t get me wrong. He’s nowhere near ready for a desk, not by a very long shot but that doesn’t mean he needs to be the one always front and center, always getting hurt, always being and doing all. In this episode for instance, it was Junior who had the big physical take down and the injury as a result. In the past, Steve wouldn’t have hesitated for a second to head down into that tunnel. Now he has a “better idea” and sends in Eddie instead.

That’s why I see him as, perhaps, evolving into a McGarrett amalgam. More mature, more willing to delegate, more willing to let the younger members of the team do some of the heavy lifting but still our fearless warrior out there in the middle of the fight, with his fists, with his guns, with his courage.


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Big Chickie, you are quite right about The Big Kahuna, the whole business about the "special effects" which are supposed to freak out Sam Kalakua are really ridiculous. Even George Lucas couldn't pull off something like this!

As far as Tread the King's Shadow is concerned, I think this episode is due for a re-evaluation by me. This is probably the worst example of a "McGarrett doing the bidding of the Governor to help the Governor's rich friends" type of episode, of which there are more than one in the later seasons.


Added: January 08 2018 09:47:59 AM
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Hey Bruddah-Chick, you flip me, maaan! Outta sight, bay-bee!! "Tread the King's Shadow" is also my worst episode! What a gas, baby!! A stink gas, maaan!! It's basically some kind of lame late-night TV-movie, one of those Lifetime channel things. Boy and girl run off to find happiness, she gets pregnant, they consider having an abortion, girl's father doesn't like boy, blah-blah-blah. What in blue blazes is McGarrett doing in the middle of all this?????? I mean, really??!!! What in the wide world of sports???? (to quote Slim Pickens in BLAZING SADDLES :D)

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I'm loving your reviews and I'm finding that I'm using them a lot. I watched "Here Today, Gone Tonight" (you gave it 1 star) and I noticed the helicopter used (for both the private 'flight' and the police retrace) was used both times - registration N8585F. I don't know if it's still active, I have yet to look that up. Thanks again for the thorough job.

Added: January 07 2018 09:16:27 PM
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Chicken’s nominees for most ridiculous, hmmmmm…..

After a groundbreakin inaugural season featurin powerhouse po-leece procedural eps and Steve-Oh/Five-Oh facin down gangsters, dope pushers & red agents – the scooby doo plot a ‘Big Kahuna’ seem pretty ridiculous (penned by our man Lenny Freeman no less, wtf?):!thinking:

But most ridiculous gotta be the Guv sendin Steve-O to chase down some teenage girl in “Tread the King's Shadow.” It ain’t even like she was dating Rono Vidalgo or nothin. Gots to be Chicken’s nominee for worst ep.

Or hows bout bringing in quintessential TV and B-movie baddie William Smith to be the new Danno for Season 12. Was Tim O'Kelly not available, was he was still hangin in Double Blanksville? :D

Man, shoulda jus promoted our man Duke to number 2. He earned it bruddas


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Anyone around here win the lottery?

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Added: January 07 2018 11:07:20 AM
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Last night's episode reviewed:

http://fiveohomepage.com/2010-log8.htm#12


Added: January 06 2018 06:39:06 PM
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There is a difference between "ridiculous" and "bad."

For example, Till Death Do Us Part is >bad<.

http://fiveohomepage.com/5-0log9.htm#199


Added: January 05 2018 06:06:53 PM
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I agree with "Dear Enemy." Absolutely ridiculous! Equally ridiculous is "My Friend, the Enemy."

I also agree with "Here Today, Gone Tonight." Build a replica of a house to throw Five-0 off the scent? I don't think so.

I nominate "The Bark and the Bite." Hiding the ruby in the collar was a good idea, but letting the dogs run with the show was just plain . . . ridiculous.


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Maybe DEAR ENEMY is just lousy. Not so much ridiculous.

KILLER AT SEA is ridiculous.


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>>>What are your nominees for most ridiculous shows from the original series? Mine are:<<<

I would have to say DEAR ENEMY is right up there.


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What are your nominees for most ridiculous shows from the original series? Mine are:

Here Today ... Gone Tonight
http://www.fiveohomepage.com/5-0log5.htm#113

Deadly Courier
http://fiveohomepage.com/5-0log11.htm#241

Interesting that the first of these stars Monte Markham, who also appeared in the twelfth season turkey School for Assassins (which was just stupid, not ridiculous)


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http://ew.com/tv/2018/01/04/hawaii-five-0-christine-ko/amp/

A new actor will join Adam who heads a task unit connected with Five-Zero to take down baddies!


Added: January 05 2018 07:44:53 AM
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Happy new year everyone!! And happy anniversary to Mike’s mother!

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Speaking of anniversaries, if my late mother was still alive today, she would be 100 years old!

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Happy New Year! :)

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