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Message from Dennis Chun on Facebook:

I would like to take a moment to note the passing of a beloved member of our H50 ohana - Helen Kuoha-Torco. She appeared in the original "Cocoon" (her photo is from that episode) and was the featured Tahitian dancer in the opening credits. She has also appeared in several episodes of the current show. She was a beautiful and talented woman. I will miss her warm smile and gentle grace. She will always hold a very special place in the hearts of all she touched . May the beauty of the rainbow greet her canoe as she returns home and may the angels bless her family and lived ones with aloha and love.

Added: August 14 2018 06:10:35 PM
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For those of you who have been waiting at least 10 years for me to finish my list of all the Classic H50 episodes in production order, here it is:

Added: August 14 2018 06:01:47 PM
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I would give Along Came Joey 4 stars out of 6. One weakness in Along Came Joey is that he was killed by blows delivered by two thugs. Boxers are well-conditioned and muscular athletes. They have well-developed shoulder and stomach muscles. Boxers are used to delivering and taking blows. It's strange that Joey would die in this manner. Kudos to Phil Joey's father in an excellent acting performance. He is the father cop trying to find out who killed his son. It's an effective episode Along Came Joey showing the various trainers, managers, and hangers on types who surround the boxer. It seems the boxer the one taking the punches gets the short end of the stick. Maybe, Joey could have been a Champion. Solid episode Season 1. JC

Added: August 14 2018 10:13:08 AM
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Along Came Joey (I had some help with this one):

Added: August 13 2018 08:21:45 PM
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Mr. Mike. I have read the answers to the questions on Not That Much Different. Already watched Not That Much Different a couple of times over the years. I'm looking at it from an investigative viewpoint. Say this perpetrator was not from the Peace Group. It would have more weight that the General was the target. McG and HFO team had to check all possibilities. Once they started into looking at Julian's friends and those close to him, it made sense the killer had to be from the Peace Group. Why? Because the Peace Group knew who would be down at The Memorial. A random killer could not know Julian would be there. There's plenty of things that make Not That Much Different 1 of the weaker episodes. Young Carole probably saved this episode from an even lower ranking. JC

Added: August 13 2018 10:16:53 AM
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After watching "Six Kilos", I find myself wondering not only which island they're supposed to be on but I also noticed that Five-O doesn't take care of their cameras! Not to mention that the photo angles are indeed impossible from where Danno was on the boat.

I get the telephoto lenses Danno's using are big but the last thing you would want to do is to put them on or remove them from the camera body in a less than controlled situation, unless it was absolutely necessary. I don't see where it was necessary in the episode. It would have been better if he had waited until he was inside and not on a boat in the middle of the ocean. Once debris gets inside a camera body, it's costly to get it out. It has to be taken to a professional to be cleaned.

It's likely the camera is ruined because even if he waited to remove the lenses at the car, chances are sand and grit would have found its way into the camera body.

Just a couple of more cents from me as a hobby photographer. :)

Added: August 13 2018 02:37:18 AM
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John, I agree that Not That Much Different is not a particularly good episode, but I don't understand why you don't "get" some of the things you were questioning. Did you read my review?

1.Who would want to shoot Julian?

Manning West wanted to knock off Julian because he was jealous of his power in the group, that Julian had "used all of us," and that by shooting Julian, West would become greater than Julian. (West was nuts, in case you are wondering.) West was also likely jealous of Julian because Julian, who may have been bisexual, was hanging out with Carole, perhaps at the same time betraying West, who was gay and had a crush on Julian to boot (whether Julian ever "returned the favor" is not known).

2. How many people would really know about an underground college Peace Magazine?

This was 1969, when the underground press in the USA and Canada was in full steam. The show suggests that the magazine may have been around 3 years before in 1966, though there is some confusion about this (see my review).

3.How would this mysterious shooter know Julian would be there?

Uh, both West and Julian were part of the same "co-operative" which put out the Peace Magazine.

4.Why wouldn't this shooter target the General? He would be more symbol of War than a college writer.

West shot Julian who was standing inches away from the general to distract people from his true intention of killing Julian, making people like McGarrett think that the General was the target.

Added: August 12 2018 04:37:26 PM
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Some other things I didn't like about Not That Much Different. A few things I have been pondering. Maybe some of the Classic HFO regulars have some opinions. 1. He (West) usually is working or having college classes with these Peace Magazine students. Where would he practice shooting the weapon if he's around these Peace people all the time? Otherwise,you have to believe he picked up the gun and 1 time from a distance shot perfectly to kill Julian. Near a crowd of people. 2. I don't understand the gas story 3 years before. That would mean West tried to get rid of Julian before. This West obviously has some kind of criminal mind. 3. West could have just started his own Peace type publication if he argued with Julian too much. People splinter off all the time to create a new product. Mr. Mike made some good points about things getting cut out maybe somewhere down the line in the script. There's a lack of coherence and plenty of trying to connect things. 4. I also didn't like the attitude of some of the Peace people towards McGarrett. Probably gave it another star for young Carole and her appearance in the episode. JC

Added: August 12 2018 04:32:32 PM
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Not That Much Different is 1 of the weakest Season 1 episodes. The episode paints itself into a corner early. Julian's shot and killed in front of the General. That's where the questions start for me. 1.Who would want to shoot Julian? 2. How many people would really know about an underground college Peace Magazine? 3.How would this mysterious shooter know Julian would be there? 4.Why wouldn't this shooter target the General? He would be more symbol of War than a college writer. That's where Not That Much Different falls apart. I think the General as the target would make more sense. One of the Peace Magazine writers or some other person could be writing the General. McG could have spent the episode on guard protecting the General. Similar to Is This Anyway To Run A Paradise? when McG protected the Senator from the environmentalist who was targeting people. I did like young Carole. She was very beautiful and a little nicer than the Peace group. The Peace group trying to figure things out was a good scene. I give it 3 stars out of 6. One of my weaker rankings.

Added: August 12 2018 11:44:03 AM
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Not That Much Different:

I really don't like this show; it was a real slog to write up the plot!

Added: August 11 2018 08:14:21 PM
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Good News! Memories of Hawaii Five-0 is back up and running. I was even able to reclaim the same domain name: Can you believe it!!!

Stop by and take a look. I'll be going through and adding tidbits to round it out and enliven it, but it's there!

Added: August 11 2018 03:51:09 PM
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Recently received Booking Hawaii Five O by Karen Rhodes for birthday gift/summer reading. It's a quick examination of the 12 Seasons of HFO & around 280 episodes. The book consists of 333 pages. Back section mostly Appendix and Index of HFO names and episodes. A nice touch is some of the Hawaiian glossary & phrases. For example: akamai "smart", hui "group", Kupuna Kane "Grandfather", pilikia "trouble" etc. Similar to Mr. Mike's episode reviews, there is not much to critique or quibble with. Some of the best commentary was on Death Is A Company Policy. She talks about Bryce-Halsey and the Duke frame up. Agree with her Bryce-Halsey would have made a great further villain. Another enjoyable read was her paragraphs on Welcome To Our Branch Office. She gives a good run down on the fake HFO actors. I never knew their real names. My only slight difference is that The Bells Toll At Noon is possibly the best single episode of the series. I would go with Engaged To Be Buried or Hookman. The V for Vashon Trilogy would rank higher too. No doubt Richard Little as Johnny Kling was larger than life. I didn't like how they turned Kling suddenly crazy like they did Maynard. It was unnecessary since both men were very calculated and proficient throughout the episode. It also didn't make sense Kling was getting his comedy career and life back on track after drug involvement derailed his career. Killing people would eventually get him apprehended. JC

Added: August 11 2018 02:05:52 PM
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The following are potential spoilers for S09E01, the first episode of the reboot's ninth season, which is based on "Cocoon," the original #H50 pilot broadcast 50 years ago this September. You can read the plot of the original episode here.

If you don't agree with spoilers, then DO NOT READ THE FOLLOWING!

The show will likely begin with a preview of what is to come later, including scenes with McGarrett in the cocoon and/or pool (see link above as to what this all means, if you are not familiar with the original).

There will be some "comic relief" with Danno and Grover at the beginning of the show after the main titles.

Much later in the show, McGarrett encounters Kang, a villain who appeared earlier, equivalent to the original's Wo Fat (who, of course, is dead in the reboot's universe -- though there is also a suggestion that McGarrett will be hallucinating about Wo Fat during his captivity). McGarrett gets a hypodermic needle in his neck. Before he passes out, though, he sees Greer, a woman, who has betrayed him. Greer sounds like the modern-day equivalent of Andrew Duggan's character Miller (a CIA-like agency big shot) in the original.

McGarrett is strapped to a vertical table, prior to being brainwashed. Kang's dialogue explaining to McGarrett what is going to happen to him is similar to that of Wo Fat in the original.

McGarrett speaks to Greer after she tells Kang that it is unlikely that McGarrett will reveal anything from a book that he found earlier. McGarrett says he will NOT tell them anything. Jack Lord's McGarrett said nothing prior to being put in the pool. McGarrett is prepared for being put in the pool; he glares at Greer.

[Later] McGarrett is taken out of the pool after several hours. When the mask is taken off his face, he screams. In the original, McGarrett did not react like this. At the beginning of the original, when McGarrett's friend Hennessey was put in the pool, after the mask was removed, >he< screamed.

Kang wants to know the names in the book.

The Five-O team and others (HPD) mount an attack on the ship where McGarrett is being held captive. McGarrett gets free from the table and escapes somewhere. McGarrett and Kang may fight in the pool, similar to Miller and McGarrett in the original.

Added: August 11 2018 06:51:00 AM
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Spoilers for S09 #H50:

Wo Fat and some guy named Kang (villain of Cocoon reboot?)

Rochelle Aytes playing "Agent Greer" on the show...

Added: August 09 2018 07:04:29 AM
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Concerning the title of "Pray Love Remember, Pray Love Remember" -- perhaps it is from the perspective of Mira's wannabe fiancee, John Hayes. When we last see him, it is obvious he misses her; but just how much? Is it enough to compel him to go to Indonesia and "share his learning"? The title could be in reference in how he remembers Mira. Just a thought.

For the title "Face of the Dragon," I know there are many connotations to the word 'Dragon' and I'm woefully unfamiliar with many of them. However, one thing/angle that piqued my curiosity was the human smuggling aspect. The crime itself has been committed for centuries but it has only picked up the 'human trafficking' moniker in the last 10-15 years or so. Was the show ahead of its time in discussing this crime? Is it possible that the title was in reference to this part of the episode? Aside from the Red China spying aspect, which took up most of the episode, this many be a possibility. I think you hit it as close as anyone Mr. Mike in saying that Lewis Shen was spokesman, or "Face," of the Dragon. Again, just a thought.

Added: August 08 2018 11:55:56 PM
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Jason, I dunno if you are aware that my site has nothing to do with CBS or the production of the new show. Therefore, I am just as much in the dark as you are about this reported "remake" of Cocoon, the original pilot episode, as you are. I have just run across things which Peter Lenkov, the executive producer, and other people have posted concerning it, which I would actually like to avoid (I don't like spoilers -- I prefer to be surprised), but this is very difficult to do. I have no idea if a "new villain" is in the offing. I will be sure and have something to say about the show after it is broadcast...

Added: August 08 2018 01:58:28 PM
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Soon to come in the rebooted #H50:

An episode featuring Jerry when he was a kid.

Also another episode which deals with the backstory of Eddie, McGarrett's dog.

Question: Will Eddie the Dog be in more episodes of Hawaii Five-0? "Lady Di
Ausiello: Not only is Eddie back for Season 9 " which will celebrate the franchise’s 50th anniversary by redoing the original Five-0‘s September 1968 pilot " but “we get to know his backstory” in a "centric [What is missing here, dog-centric, canine-centric, bitch-centric? (But Eddie is a guy!!) - MQ] episode, Peter M. Lenkov told us.

Also this...

CBS has some rather ambitious plans for Hawaii Five-0 season 9 in general, given that there is going to be a tribute to a classic episode coming up in the premiere [This is "Cocoon," as has been discussed here -- MQ]. Meanwhile, we are also going to have a chance to see an epic 200th episode that is hopefully going to serve as an awesome celebration to the entire run of the show to date. There aren't too many details about it out there right now, save for the fact that Steve and Danny's restaurant is going to be a key part of it.

Added: August 08 2018 01:40:40 PM
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Just watched the Five-Zero Season 8 finale, and read Mike's review. Here are some of my thoughts:

The opening dramatic scene, featuring five men paddling in a long canoe before being shocked by a Russian sub surfacing, seems to be an homage to the "six Hawaiian natives paddling a long canoe in the ocean" featured in the Five-O end song. You can see the end song I'm talking about here:

The whole "33 of 60 men mutinying to defect to the US" plot point was incredibly confusing and unnecessary. They could have simply explained the sub's surfacing in Petrov forcing the captain at gunpoint to get near the Honolulu shore, and then stealing a zodiac and bailing (similar to what Mike suggested in his review). Why would the crew even return back to Russia after more than half of it mutinied?

The fight between McGarrett and Petrov was exciting and well-choreographed, even though we knew McGarrett would ultimately win. I agree with Mike that it might be the best fight we've seen of the series.

An "enemy" submarine being based located off an American beach may have been somewhat based on the 1942 incident at Ellwood Beach (California), one of the few foreign attacks on the US mainland since 1812 (nobody was injured or killed). Of course, this one wasn't on the mainland, so perhaps it wasn't inspired by the Japanese Ellwood sub.

As annoying as the restaurant segments were, I felt a sense of relief that they seem to be "handing it off" somewhat to Kamekona, thus perhaps taking the perpetual and annoying burden of the restaurant off the backs of Danno and Steve (and hopefully off of the backs of the audience!)

I found it unsatisfying that they STILL made no progress on the Adam situation, despite teasing it in "Previously on Five-O" for the past 5 episodes or something.

Speaking of no closure, I was sure we would see Duke get dismissed from HPD and joining Five-Zero, but it didn't happen. Instead, he's just going to "hearings" regarding his actions. I'm wondering if the writers haven't decided yet whether they want Duke as a Five-Zero team member (is it already getting too crowded?), so they left it up in the air.

Monica Shore (the Russian double agent) looked too young to have murdered Petrov's parents when he was 9. Public records show that Andrea Elizabeth Sikkink (the actress who played Shore) is 49. Not sure how old Dennis Keiffer (Petrov) is, but he didn't look young, and definitely not young enough for Shore to have killed his character's parents when he was only 9. Not sure what Five-Zero (and sometimes Five-O, as well) has so many problems with character ages.

My thoughts on Season 8 overall?

Better than the last few overall, though the whole arc with Adam was weird and didn't really work.

Most notably, CBS was right about Grace Park and Daniel Dae Kim. They were indeed just side characters, and didn't deserve the same pay as Alex O'Loughlin (or even Scott Caan, for that matter). I didn't find myself missing Kono or Chin. In fact, Junior and Tani were good enough characters to where it freshened up the show somewhat, while also giving Grover a bit more to do.

With all the Kono mentions during the season, I do wonder if they will bring Kono (and maybe Chin) back as guests at some point.

Also, while I didn't hate Max the way Mike did, I have to admit that I like Noelani better. The writers seemed intent upon shoving Max's "geekdom" down our throats. With him gone, we don't have to endure the awful pandering to the geek demographic of the audience.

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Mr. Mike: So the question I have is who is the villain? Wo Fat of course was the villain in the original, so does this mean that Mark Dacascos is back as Wo Fat? What is your thoughts on how they will do this part of the remake? Will it be a new villain introduced? Interested in your opinions.

Added: August 07 2018 08:59:14 PM
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Jason, most of the information about the revival of "Cocoon" comes from the crumbs which Lenkov himself has dropped on Twitter and Instagram.

Here is some more Cocoon stuff:

We should be optimistic about this, but remember what happened with the remake of Hookman -- despite the involvement of the original screenwriters and some good points, the whole thing was totally derailed by an idiotic anti-gun rant of Danno.

I can't help thinking that in this Cocoon remake, they're going to have Danno break into to the room at the point where McGarrett is being tortured in the pool with his face covered by the breathing apparatus, and Danno starts screaming about something that has to do with their restaurant.

Someone leaked what is supposedly an excerpt from the script to me which says the "rush-in savior moment" of the episode is as follows:

It means action that defines character. Our location utilized like a character. The pier being used as cover. For instance: Bodies falling into the water between the ship and the dock. Tani doing shit that blows our minds. Junior being relentless " TERMINATORing his way forward. Jerry using the SUV to pin a shooter. Grover and his shotgun BFF taking ground inch by inch. And Danny front and center. Because nothing will stop our family from rescuing one of their own.

Added: August 07 2018 02:57:10 PM
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Here are my other Five-Zero comments, these related to season 8, episodes 22-24.

Episode 22:
Decent episode, and nice to see Duke central to the plot, but it could have been better. It didn't make sense to me why Duke was blackmailed to retrieve the key from the evidence room AND use it to get into the locker. Indeed, this resulted in Duke getting mugged for the money by one of the drug dealer's thugs, and the blackmailer almost killing his granddaughter over the money never showing up! Wouldn't it have made sense for Duke to simply get the key, leave it somewhere for the bad guys, and then they'd release his granddaughter? This wouldn't even require him to see or interact with them in person. Instead, he was supposed to get the money, and oddly was told to bring it to their hideout, rather than some neutral location.

The Jerry-in-the-mental-hospital story was pretty good, even though the "corrupt mental hospital" angle has been used in crime dramas for decades. (However, I don't believe it was done in Five-O during its run.)

I do wonder why Dylan Shu, pretending to be mental patient Christopher Kosaki, acts like such a badass in the hospital! If you're trying to hide from the FBI and lay low, is it really wise to attack a fellow mental patient over TV channel selection, and to generally be threatening and difficult with the staff and other inmates? Why not play the part of a harmless-but-neurotic type, like the chess player who befriended Jerry in the ward? This was one of the few Five-Zero stories where the suspected "bad guy" in a murder mystery really DID turn out to be the bad guy! After Jerry crashes the van at gunpoint and crawls out injured, he declines help over the phone from McGarrett. Why? How does he know that the other two are more incapacitated than he is?

Episode 23:
This episode was pretty ridiculous.

While James Hong (Leung) looked great for 89, and it was nice to see him on Five-Zero, his entire scene was unnecessary and stupid.

If they want to introduce the "old, all-knowing Asian gangster" type to the show, why use him in an episode where the crime does not involve the Asian community?

They went to Leung to find out information on the Boston Irish mob? This couldn't have been a worse choice of episodes to introduce this guy.

In addition, the entire "Bruce Lee" sequence was distracting and weird. I'm not sure why it was included, other than to get Scott Caan to take off his shirt?

Aside from the dumb bit at the vet at the beginning of the show, this was a rare one-subject Five-Zero episode, where almost all of it was spent concentrating on the crime. However, it didn't feel like it because of that odd Leung distraction.

Episode 24:
I still don't understand Junior's abrupt disappearance at the beginning, as if he had been kidnapped. He didn't have time to take a few steps over to McGarrett and tell him that he got recalled to the Navy?

The flashbacks to 2002 didn't even try to make McGarrett or Joe White look 16 years younger. McGarrett would have been in his 20s in 2002, yet he arguably looked OLDER than he does now, due to his disheveled appearance when injured. It seemed like the makeup people didn't even try to make either of these men look younger, which was actually a distraction.

I felt that the flashbacks in general went on too long, and any point they made could have been communicated in one flashback. The flashbacks also lacked drama, because clearly we knew that both Joe and McGarrett would get out safely, and the 2002 enemies were always offscreen.

The bombing of the compound didn't make sense to me. Even if it couldn't be delayed for a few minutes to allow McGarrett/Joe/Junior a chance to get out, why couldn't the three of them have simply come out, guns ablazing, and run away from the bombing? They did the exact same thing in a worse spot when attempting to escape from the tunnel, through the doors where bad guys were waiting on the other side!

Regarding the other case, I found it odd that they were avoiding mentioning that Hirsch was Jewish, despite the fact that it seemed to be highly implied from his actions. Hirsch seemed more bothered to find paintings stolen by the Nazis than the murder itself he was cleaning up, and then put out great risk to break back into the house to verify the paintings being authentic. (Kamekona, part owner of the business, claims they will get "publicity" for recovering the paintings, but it seems this is somewhat personal for Hirsch.)

Then, at the end, Hirsch spends his own money to travel to the mainland to return the paintings to the family of the original Jewish owners, and states that he feels good about it. This is probably the only selfless act we've seen from Hirsch, and it would have been much more powerful if it was said that he was doing it because of his Jewish roots. Instead, this entire connection wasn't mentioned at all, despite actor Willie Garson being Jewish and having Woody-Allen-like nebbishy mannerisms.

I have a feeling that, absent of any positive Jewish characters on the show thus far, the writers were afraid to have the one Jewish character be a shady ex-con and kind of a buffoon.

They've been dragging the Adam story without further development or conclusion for a few episodes now. I hate when they do stuff like that.

Added: August 07 2018 01:20:21 AM
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Just watched Season 8, episodes 20-24 in the past week, of Five Zero.

Read each of Mike's reviews after watching each episode, which has become a ritual when I watch, as I rarely catch the show live anymore. I haven't seen the season finale yet, but probably will this week.

Here are my comments:

Episode 20:
I never like the scenes where small, skinny females (Kono, Tani, Catherine) suddenly turn into Wonder Woman when it comes to beating up or attacking large men. Once again, Catherine got angry at a fellow CIA guy in Kenya, and choked him until she had to be pulled off. Absolutely can't swallow scenes like that.

The rest of the episode wasn't bad, and the Kamehameha angle was interesting. However, I knew there was no way Five-Zero would find those remains, as writing such a fictional story could be considered disrespectful to Hawaiians.

I agree with Mike that the "fake artifacts were washed ashore in 1957, found by the Navy, and kept" was far-fetched and absurd. Surely they could have come up with a better explanation.

Junior falling into the hole was the weaker part of the show. In fact, it didn't look at all impossible for someone as physically fit as junior (who didn't appear to be too badly injured) to get out. But there was a big plot hole: His cell phone was working until shortly before he fell into the hole. His location could have been determined easily once he went missing!

Episode 21:
I liked this one a bit better than Mike did, though the episode did have various flaws.

Actress Alana Boden looked far too sexy and mature to be 16, and indeed the actress was 21. Even worse, the show dressed her up in skimpy outfits and seemingly sexualized her, which felt weird to watch, given that the character was supposed to be only 16.

I laughed when the guy from the dating app said of Sophie, "That girl really knows how to party", and they showed a montage of her supposedly partying hard. Instead of seeing her snorting lines of cocaine or having an orgy with four dudes, the show's definition of "really knowing how to party" consisted of her dancing and squirting people with a water gun in the pool. Are the writers that old and out-of-touch, or were they afraid to show the girl doing anything too scandalous, given her character's age and the show being on network TV? I just thought that whole scene was stupid.

It is unclear why Sophie got on the boat when it was painfully clear that she was being kidnapped and setup.

The episode's ending did bother me. It attempted to emulate a James Bond film, where the dapper British hero engages in snappy dialogue with the baddies before dispatching them. But this sort of thing doesn't really have a place in Five-Zero. Langford jumped onto the boat full of dangerous and armed kidnapppers. Instead of attempting to surprise them, he simply walked up to them and engaged in conversation. Why didn't they just simply blow him away, especially once it was clear that Langford had a partner on the ship (McGarrett)?

Unlike Mike, I didn't mind the ending where it was revealed that Langford was Sophie's father, nor did I mind his decision not to tell her, and just to quietly protect her from arm's length.

I do feel that actor Chris Vance, while charming and Bond-like, is a bit too physically small for the role.

I'll get to the other 3 episodes in the next message.

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Pray Love Remember is an episode that's a little overrated. I never put it in my Top 20 or Top 30 episodes Classic HFO. It lacks a brilliant mastermind criminal like a Wo Fat or an HRH. The prime suspect is the extremely tall blond student. He didn't seem like the perpetrator. That 2 suspects would both have "15" sized feet seems far-fetched. The young girl and her keen observations about the two fish would help the case. Benny didn't mean to kill the young girl who screamed. I'll always remember when McG was breaking it down and Benny said "I ain't got no license." I remember McG getting tossed by Benny leaving him with some damaged ribs. Wished McG had better advice for the blond student who was picking up the pieces of his life. He could have used a big hug. I'd give Pray Love Remember 4 stars out of 6. JC

Added: August 06 2018 12:56:47 PM
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Nice review on "Deathwatch." I noticed a couple of things -- i could be wrong on the first.

1. The ambulance taking Cardonus to the hospital with the motorcycle escort is one that is seen time and again throughout the series -- I believe this is the first occurrence of that sequence. Again, I could be wrong.

2. The last shot of the episode (where the print "Executive Producer Leonard Freeman" is seen) is that of the second shot of the courthouse clock from "Samurai." The time shown is 10:40am.

It's fun seeing this stuff and realizing my brain isn't so stuffed with cobwebs.

Added: August 06 2018 12:10:20 AM
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Saw on Instagram where Peter Lenkov shared that for the 9th Season Premiere of Five-Zero, they are remaking "Cocoon" and he posted a pic of someone in the orange scuba suit in the water. Does anyone have any additional info about this?

Added: August 05 2018 09:43:21 PM
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Mr. Mike. I would give Six Kilos 4 stars out of 6. Last few times, I've scribbled down a few notes about Six Kilos. It keeps getting marked down because of inconsistencies and mistakes. 4 out of 6 about right. Several things in Six Kilos make me want to mark it down more. 1. Why not just tail Mr. Brown from the airport? They are following his movements. It would have led HFO to the safe house with the other criminals. 2. The Mr. Brown tattoo. How did they airbrush a complex tattoo on McG's arm that fast? Plus Swanson checked out the tattoo when McG assumed Brown's identity. My guess the tattoo would still be inky or fresh. 3. McG would have no idea if Brown worked with this crew on an earlier job. It was incredibly risky to send him on the mission. 4.The nitro man. He would have to report to somebody in that chain of criminals. When he failed to report, my guess somebody would be looking for him. 5. I don't understand why Margi would shoot the men. They did their job help getting the "H". Guess she was greedy. Wanted everything. Six Kilos does have some good moments. I like when they jump off the boat after collecting the H. The scene where Brown is shot at the airport was very shocking. It's always good to see McG to go undercover. JC

Added: August 05 2018 02:19:01 PM
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I started out doing Along Came Joey, then got very bored since this show is not that interesting, and full of boxing lingo and so forth. So I jumped to Six Kilos, a show I like because it has a certain "reputation" (see the review) and is full of mistakes!

Check out my review, which reaches new levels of trivial anal-ysis:

Added: August 05 2018 01:19:00 PM
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Mr. Mike and Ringfire - your logic makes sense concerning the title. Shows you what I focused on at 1am ;)

Speaking of being focused, Trinian certainly was. He would go - and did - to any lengths to avenge his life, which he considered was wrongfully taken from him. He is one creepy character and his singular focus makes him that much more so.

An enjoyable episode all the way around. :)

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Uh, you realize that these two left the show over a year ago, right?

This site has nothing to do with CBS or the people producing the new show.

There are better places you can express your (belated) displeasure on Twitter and Facebook.

There is no guarantee that the people you wish to reach read this site at all (but I suspect they really do).

Added: August 05 2018 10:21:03 AM
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It has come to my attention the truth behind the departure of two of the shows main actors Kim and Park.
I will no longer be able to watch my favorite show knowing that these two actors, both who have much stronger resumes than Caan and O’loughlan, were discriminated against because of race and gender. (By the way, I’m white)
I love the show and all of the actors equally. But, I can no longer, in the age of Trump and his racist and divisive rhetoric, stand by for any injustice of this kind.
Shame on the Network for hiding behind policy and not doing the right thing.

Added: August 05 2018 10:07:32 AM
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I was thinking about the title, I think it means as follows:

Yesterday Died - Trinian's life effectively ends when he goes to jail
Tomorrow Won't Be Born - Because of his criminal ways, Trinian gets knocked off (this is kind of a spoiler for the show, actually)

Added: August 05 2018 09:32:22 AM
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I always thought the title had everything to do with Trinian, and nothing with McG or Danno. The title suggests that Trinian died when he went to prison. That’s when everything stopped for him. He died then, never to be born again. Now he’s basically just a dead man walking, dishing out revenge.

Added: August 05 2018 02:41:09 AM
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Just watched "Yesterday Died and Tomorrow Will Never be Born" -- excellent review again Mr. Mike and I agree one of the best episodes of Season 1. I especially like how Danno picks up and begins running things. You can tell it's not his forte but he's not shirking the responsibilities by any means.

My thoughts on the title: is that everything just stops for McGarrett 'today.' It stops for Five-O too, but not for long. As the Governor points out, they are responsible for the entire State of Hawaii, not just McGarrett's case. Danno does an excellent job of picking up the pieces and handling things, even if there is a part of him that doesn't want to.

This could be another aspect of the title - life as Danno knew it is over. As second in command, it's up to him to pick up the baton and run with it when necessary (such as McGarrett being killed, as an example; the "Tomorrow" part of the title) and he has do that in such a way as to be effective and bring the team together to keep the well-oiled machine running. No longer can he simply sit back and take orders (the "Yesterday" part of the title). It's not an easy transition to move into a leadership role such as this and there will be slip ups. I like what he says at the end about it being "a heavy load." Too right.

I know this is long, but this episode has become one of favorites overall and definitely (in my opinion) the best from Season 1.

Added: August 05 2018 02:10:25 AM
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I've always thought Pray Love Remember deserves a spot in any conversation about the best of the best episodes. McG was absolutely bursting with swagger at that time.

Added: August 04 2018 10:23:26 AM
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Agree Mr. Mike! I think Yesterday Died is a masterpiece. Probably King Of The Hill and Yesterday Died are my FAV Season 1 episodes. It's nearly a perfect episode. Danno conducted an excellent investigation into finding McGarrett's perpetrator. Trinian is definitely full of revenge. I guess 15 years in prison will do that to a military man. Especially if he feels he was innocent of the crimes. That always sticks with me when the Doctor says:"70/30 against." Amazing scene when Trinian talks with Emma. There still is plenty of love there after 15 years. I like Trinian's determination and focus. He's going after all the people who wronged him during the trial. I had Yesterday Died at 5 or 5.5 stars because I didn't like how Danno got there just at the right time taking down Joe. However, I watched this episode last winter. Trinian had to navigate several stairs up a winding staircase and Danno was really hustling. I had judged the ending too harshly. Yesterday Died deserves the rare 6 star honor. JC

Added: August 03 2018 07:10:07 PM
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Re-viewed classic #H50 episodes:

Yesterday Died And Tomorrow Won't Be Born

Pray Love Remember, Pray Love Remember

Added: August 03 2018 06:15:01 PM
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Mr. Mike - I agree the Aloha Tower shot is probably a fluke. I chalk it up to 'this is when the assassins arrived in Hawaii.' Could be my fan mind is filling in the blanks. :)

As far as "Tiger," there is the part where Danno's questioning the girls(?) then he turns around to the owner who shows up. Could be my headphones too plugged into my laptop - I've had to make multiple adjustments in several episodes. Just struck me funny to a point, "Why are you yelling?" --asking myself of course. :D

Added: August 03 2018 02:52:58 PM
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Bobbi, in Tiger by the Tail, are you referring to the beginning of the show, before Robert Luck, the owner of the club shows up? I don't think Danno is talking particularly loudly here.

In Samurai, you are quite right about the courthouse clocks, good eye! As far as the Aloha Tower is concerned, though, I don't think the idea is that "this is the Aloha Tower before Tokura shows up to court," it's just an establishing shot saying "this is Hawaii," because this was the first show filmed and I guess they figured some people might not know where they were.

I agree that in season one, the show was "finding its groove." Remember that the ratings were not very good in season one -- they didn't even make it into the top ten. It wasn't until the 3rd season that things improved:

Season 2 (1969-1970) - #19
Season 3 (1970-1971) - #7
Season 4 (1971-1972) - #12
Season 5 (1972-1973) - #3
Season 6 (1973-1974) - #10
Season 7 (1974-1975) - #10

Added: August 03 2018 11:01:26 AM
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I promise this is the last one of the night. :)

Concerning "Samurai," did Honolulu go into some sort of time warp?

When we see Aloha Tower it is showing a time of 2:40pm -- being daylight, I'm assuming it is the afternoon since 2am would be dark. When we see the courthouse in the next sequence is shows a time of about 1:50pm. The next time we see the courthouse clock it shows a time of 10:40am -- this was when Tokura was meeting the Crime Commission, stopped, and the subsequent death of Mary Travers.

Again, just curious. Thank you Mr. Mike for pointing out that the phone was still ringing when McGarrett answered it in his office - made me laugh. :D

Added: August 02 2018 11:00:55 PM
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Is it just me or is Danno yelling in the Swinger Bar for no reason in "Tiger by the Tail"? Was there a sound problem when they filmed that particular sequence? :!cool:

Added: August 02 2018 09:39:33 PM
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Ringfire - thank you for the pic. I love Punchbowl too - it's an amazing place. There is a book on the cemetery that I found at a few locations (bought mine at the Missouri) in 2015. It's so worthwhile.

Mr. Mike - I agree, in rewatching Season 1, there is a different dynamic between the Governor and McGarrett. Could this be the result of the series trying to figure itself out?

I agree wholeheartedly that the team behind McGarrett is not slacking at all! There are many times they have pulled him out of the fire - Man in a Steel Frame comes to mind right away for multiple reasons. They pay his bail, they investigate what really happened and Danno prevents McGarrett from committing murder on the beach.

Added: August 02 2018 09:34:52 PM
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Great discussion on the HFO forum! I think the Governor was an underrated factor in Classic HFO's success. Similar to John Manicote DA. The Governor probably wanted McG to succeed at HFO because it made his decision look brilliant to hire him. Usually, the meeting with the Governor was something important. Their friendship grew as the years passed. The Finney matter in All The King's Horses jumps to mind. I thought there was some good dialogue in Rest In Peace Somebody when the Governor was in danger. The Governor was being stubborn about his protection as busy as he was but McG made sure he wore his protective vest. Classic HFO would have been successful without the Governor's role but I'm glad he was in all 12 seasons.

Added: August 02 2018 02:45:19 PM
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Mike, you’re right that Shigeta played Joseph Takagi and that Nakatomi was the name of his corporation. Most people tend to forget this. They just remember Nakatomi Plaza and assume he’s Nakatomi. It’s all good though. As long as they remember the man.

As for early season Governor I actually prefer this version to the later seasons. Later on he would task McGarrett with finding some lost dog of one of his heiress friends. Stuff like that. Steve and Gov would get really chummy and cute later on. McG would be poking fun at Gov calling him “sonny” because that’s what Millicent Shand used to call him (though admittedly I do get a chuckle out of that scene and it actually is pretty funny). But in the early seasons this would never fly. Gov was all business and so was McG. Yes, sir. No, sir. I understand, sir. Good day, sir. In fact everyone in season 1 was very subservient - Kono and Chin were all “yes, boss” to McG. Sign of the times, I guess. I know folks still get offended because Connery’s Bond tells his Jamaican ally Quarrel to “fetch my shoes” in DR. NO. This is all a time capsule which I love revisiting.

Added: August 02 2018 01:47:14 PM
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In watching these first season episodes again, some of which I think I haven't really seen in about 20 years (I don't recall watching them again when the first season DVDs came out, which was in 2007, unlike other seasons when they first appeared), I am finding myself really annoyed by the Governor's attitude towards McGarrett. This guy is acting like a big bitch!

Seriously, no matter how much of a superman McGarrett is, there is a limit as to how all-encompassing, all-knowing he can be in terms of being "on the cusp" in dealing with every crime in Hawaii, even over and above those which affect the Governor personally.

It's not like McGarrett and his team are a bunch of slack asses, really!

Added: August 02 2018 09:52:22 AM
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Pix of James Shigeta grave at Punchbowl Cemetery taken by Ringfire:

Added: August 02 2018 06:07:31 AM
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Mr. Mike. I just saw your post this AM. I think the episodes that would receive the highest honor 6 stars would be in NO particular order:1.Hookman 2.Engaged To Be Buried 3.The Ninety-Second War Part I. 4. Highest Castle, Deepest Grave 5. King Of The Hill 6.Yesterday Died...7. The Vashon Trilogy. There's probably a few more that I'm missing. A few excellent episodes get nickel and dimed to 5.5 for a variety of reasons. 1. Cry, Lie. This would be close to 6 but the ending with Danno and Kono shooting at Callo...I think it's a little over the top. 2.Three Dead Cows At Makapuu. I enjoy this episode but can't quite give it 6. Maybe, because he could prove his work already with the three cows. Killing innocent Hawaiians in the thousands possibly and for what. 3.Double Exposure. This was an outstanding episode but McGarrett in the copter blasting close to his men. It was very dangerous. I think you mentioned about the ending before too. 4.The Singapore File. This is real close to 6. I guess it gets nickeled and dimed a little for the guests on the boat. They kind of gave away the suspense when they flashed the camera on the priest. He indeed is the guy sent to rub out McGarrett. There are some more 5.5 ones. Forty Feet High And It Kills! Nightmare In Blue, East Wind-Ill Wind, Honor Is An Unmarked Grave. JC

Added: August 02 2018 05:08:04 AM
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Thanks, H50 1.0 FOREVER. If true then it’s sad that the house is gone. I’m on O’ahu now and have been checking out some of the episode locations that I missed or didn’t know about 10 years ago when I first visited. I’ve taken quite a few pics. Maybe I can send them to Mr. Mike at some point and he can put them up on his site somewhere.

Speaking of Joe Matsukino, I visited the Punchbowl Pacific Cemetery today and found the grave of James Shigeta, Honolulu-born Korean War veteran. I took a pic. I love that place, with the Lady Columbia statue (seen in the opening titles) overseeing all our fallen heroes laid to rest there. Interesting note - there was a lady there who asked me who I was looking for. I told her an actor was buried there. She was surprised and asked which actor. I told her James Shigeta who appeared on the original Five-O. She thought that was really cool but obviously didn’t know who he was. So then I told her if she remembered in the movie DIE HARD the Japanese businessman who gets killed by Hans Gruber and all of a sudden her eyes light up and she exclaims “NAKATOMI!!!!!” lol. [Shigeta's character in Die Hard was named Takagi, he was President of Nakatomi Trading. -- MQ] She then proceeded to tell me that she actually worked in that building (Fox Plaza) in Century City in L.A. She couldn’t believe that he was actually buried here at this cemetery.

P.S. I did a Magnum P.I. helicopter tour (with the doors off) too today! Very exciting!!! I was wearing my official Tom Selleck red jungle bird shirt. The Magnum staff loved it :)) Here’s their site:

Added: August 02 2018 02:40:12 AM
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Hello Mr. Mike! Concerning "Tiger by the Tail," the scene where Parks has been shot, Danno says he's still breathing. Just after this, McGarrett tells the HPD officer to call an ambulance. Did Parks later die as McGarrett was outside talking to Bobby or when Bobby was reconciling with his father? Your review says Parks was shot dead. Just curious on this one. [Someone else already told me about this, I think by e-mail. I thought I had fixed this, which I have done now, thanks.]

Like the review and I found myself wondering about Jasper myself - FBI or HPD? He is shown in the credits as "Jasper, FBI." Still doesn't explain McGarrett's order to Kono to notify the FBI and Kono leaving the office if Jasper is right there. :)

Added: August 02 2018 02:28:40 AM
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Thank you Mr. Mike! That is very helpful! :)

Added: August 01 2018 06:00:58 PM
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John, are there any original H50 shows which get 6 out of 6 stars as far as you are concerned? If so, what are they?

Added: August 01 2018 05:31:54 PM
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